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Mass change model info thread
Published 21/07/2025 @ 18:52:37, By dsl
Agree Mk5 Mondeo was basically the US Fusion Mk2 2 years late. But Mondeo Mk5 is the obvious thing to call it because everyone knows it as that - switching names would cause chaos and confusion.
No problem with dual origin flags if/when we get that facility (but opens up other cans of worms for consistency with eg late Transits which we'd need to digest appropriately). And there may be an argument for Mondeo Mk5 getting CD4 code - I'm agnostic on this. But what we've got at the moment works happily across all our users and their various levels of knowledge, so any changes should work equally happily, or they're not an improvement.
No problem with dual origin flags if/when we get that facility (but opens up other cans of worms for consistency with eg late Transits which we'd need to digest appropriately). And there may be an argument for Mondeo Mk5 getting CD4 code - I'm agnostic on this. But what we've got at the moment works happily across all our users and their various levels of knowledge, so any changes should work equally happily, or they're not an improvement.
Mass change model info thread
Published 22/07/2025 @ 15:32:15, By MisterZ
1963+:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=1964&yearTo=19- 64&makeMatch=2&make=Holden&modelMatch=1&model=EH&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=- on&mk=&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=
EXCEPT for these:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_976642-Holden-Panel-Van-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1239633-Holden-Special-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_978550-Holden-Special-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1055550-Holden-Special-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1058256-Holden-Special-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_972491-Holden-Standard-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1239971-Holden-Utility-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1017325-Holden-Panel-Van-EH-1964.html
Latest Edition: 22/07/2025 @ 15:35:40
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=1964&yearTo=19- 64&makeMatch=2&make=Holden&modelMatch=1&model=EH&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=- on&mk=&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=
EXCEPT for these:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_976642-Holden-Panel-Van-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1239633-Holden-Special-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_978550-Holden-Special-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1055550-Holden-Special-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1058256-Holden-Special-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_972491-Holden-Standard-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1239971-Holden-Utility-EH-1964.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1017325-Holden-Panel-Van-EH-1964.html
Latest Edition: 22/07/2025 @ 15:35:40
Mass change model info thread
Published 22/07/2025 @ 16:22:13, By antp
I guess this would be a candidate for dual origin flags but I guess we can wait until that feature is implemented

Or a "World" flag

MisterZ > done
Latest Edition: 22/07/2025 @ 16:25:05
Mass change model info thread
Published 26/07/2025 @ 14:31:44, By JB007
For Ram and Dodge.
Chassis-code is "ND" for 2005+ Dodge Dakota
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Dodge_model-Dakota.html
Chassis-code is "DJ" for all Ram Heavy Duty 2500
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-2500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-Heavy+Duty+2500.html
Chassis-code is "DP" for all Ram Heavy Duty 4500 and Ram Heavy Duty 5500
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-Heavy+Duty+4500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-Heavy+Duty+5500.html
Chassis-code is "D2" for all Ram Heavy Duty 3500 (Pick-up).
It's for there:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1167771-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_610174-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1535498-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1051941-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1868019-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1012081-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1370517-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1408644-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_584684-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2012.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_554525-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2012.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_928689-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2012.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_755515-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1102823-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1396707-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1396747-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1308649-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1370495-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1152627-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1171954-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1125435-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1633304-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1715983-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1720845-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1735734-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1798669-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1849932-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1861755-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1772139-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-DS-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1218543-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2016.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1250441-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2016.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1310509-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2016.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1693660-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2018.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1911225-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-DJ-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1993924-Ram-3500-DS-2013.html
Chassis-code is "DD" for all Ram Heavy Duty 3500 (Chassis-Cab).
It's for there:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1185708-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1213899-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_935402-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1027517-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1698479-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_878726-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1516694-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1591306-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
Chassis-code is "DS" for all 2010-2018 Ram 1500 and 2009+ Dodge Ram.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=2009&yearTo=&makeMatch=- 2&make=dodge&modelMatch=1&model=ram&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=on&mk=&origin=- &madein=&madefor=&role=
For there, 2009+ [DS].
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1656270-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1578480-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1617969-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1992955-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1738505-Dodge-Ram.html
For there, 2013+ [DS].
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1915037-Ram-1500-DS.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_2003278-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1999559-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1930013-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1799206-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1648767-Ram-1500.html
Source:
https://www.ramtrucks.com/assets/bbg/pdf/2016/docs/intro/modelcodeschart.pdf
Chassis-code is "DT" for all 2019+ Ram 1500.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_2011916-Ram-1500-DT.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1831579-Ram-1500.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_1500_(DT)
For there, Make is "Ram", year is "2010+" and model is "Heavy Duty".
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1728255-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1697536-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1386593-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1610118-Dodge-Ram-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1811406-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1728506-Dodge-Ram-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1852482-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1991142-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_991719-Ram-1500.html
Chassis-code is "ND" for 2005+ Dodge Dakota
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Dodge_model-Dakota.html
Chassis-code is "DJ" for all Ram Heavy Duty 2500
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-2500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-Heavy+Duty+2500.html
Chassis-code is "DP" for all Ram Heavy Duty 4500 and Ram Heavy Duty 5500
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-Heavy+Duty+4500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-Heavy+Duty+5500.html
Chassis-code is "D2" for all Ram Heavy Duty 3500 (Pick-up).
It's for there:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1167771-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_610174-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1535498-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1051941-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1868019-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1012081-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1370517-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1408644-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_584684-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2012.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_554525-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2012.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_928689-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2012.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_755515-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1102823-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1396707-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1396747-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1308649-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1370495-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1152627-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1171954-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1125435-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1633304-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1715983-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1720845-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1735734-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1798669-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1849932-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1861755-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1772139-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-DS-2013.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1218543-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2016.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1250441-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2016.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1310509-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2016.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1693660-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2018.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1911225-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-DJ-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1993924-Ram-3500-DS-2013.html
Chassis-code is "DD" for all Ram Heavy Duty 3500 (Chassis-Cab).
It's for there:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1185708-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1213899-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_935402-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1027517-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1698479-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_878726-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1516694-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1591306-Ram-Heavy-Duty-3500-2011.html
Chassis-code is "DS" for all 2010-2018 Ram 1500 and 2009+ Dodge Ram.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=2009&yearTo=&makeMatch=- 2&make=dodge&modelMatch=1&model=ram&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=on&mk=&origin=- &madein=&madefor=&role=
For there, 2009+ [DS].
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1656270-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1578480-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1617969-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1992955-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1738505-Dodge-Ram.html
For there, 2013+ [DS].
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1915037-Ram-1500-DS.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_2003278-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1999559-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1930013-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1799206-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1648767-Ram-1500.html
Source:
https://www.ramtrucks.com/assets/bbg/pdf/2016/docs/intro/modelcodeschart.pdf
Chassis-code is "DT" for all 2019+ Ram 1500.
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Ram_model-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_2011916-Ram-1500-DT.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1831579-Ram-1500.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_1500_(DT)
For there, Make is "Ram", year is "2010+" and model is "Heavy Duty".
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1728255-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1697536-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1386593-Dodge-Ram.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1610118-Dodge-Ram-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1811406-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1728506-Dodge-Ram-2010.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1852482-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1991142-Ram-1500.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_991719-Ram-1500.html
Mass change model info thread
Published 27/07/2025 @ 00:53:17, By MisterZ
2020+:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1655867-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1676133-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1896686-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1902164-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1913438-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1933484-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_2005665-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
1962+:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=1963&yearTo=19- 63&makeMatch=2&make=Holden&modelMatch=1&model=EJ&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=- on&mk=&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=
EXCEPT for these ones:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1219048-Holden-Utility-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_691354-Holden-Utility-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_978880-Holden-Utility-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1014795-Holden-Utility-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_973531-Holden-Special-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_673294-Holden-Utility-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1135854-Holden-Special-EJ-1963.html
Latest Edition: 27/07/2025 @ 06:22:53
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1655867-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1676133-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1896686-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1902164-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1913438-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1933484-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_2005665-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
1962+:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=1963&yearTo=19- 63&makeMatch=2&make=Holden&modelMatch=1&model=EJ&modelInclModel=on&modelInclChassis=- on&mk=&origin=&madein=&madefor=&role=
EXCEPT for these ones:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1219048-Holden-Utility-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_691354-Holden-Utility-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_978880-Holden-Utility-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1014795-Holden-Utility-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_973531-Holden-Special-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_673294-Holden-Utility-EJ-1963.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1135854-Holden-Special-EJ-1963.html
Latest Edition: 27/07/2025 @ 06:22:53
Mass change model info thread
Published 27/07/2025 @ 18:30:07, By antp
OK, I don,'t have time right now to check these, so it will be for Tuesday probably

Mass change model info thread
Published 27/07/2025 @ 18:43:02, By antp
2020+:
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1655867-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1676133-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1896686-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1902164-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1913438-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1933484-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_2005665-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1655867-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1676133-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1896686-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1902164-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1913438-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1933484-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_2005665-Hyundai-Sonata-DN8-2019.html
Why?
Usually I trust ChasingX on indentification of South-Korean cars, especially on domestic market.
Mass change model info thread
Published 28/07/2025 @ 02:29:05, By MisterZ
@antp - the N Line variant went on sale November 2020 in Korea. See article here: https://www.koreaherald.com/article/2480138
ChasingX is wrong in this case
Latest Edition: 28/07/2025 @ 13:58:07
ChasingX is wrong in this case

Latest Edition: 28/07/2025 @ 13:58:07
Mass change model info thread
Published 28/07/2025 @ 17:25:43, By dhill_cb7
There might be a reason he never added chassis codes to those. If we see him active we can have him check first.
Mass change model info thread
Published 29/07/2025 @ 17:29:25, By MisterZ
Mass change model info thread
Published 29/07/2025 @ 20:45:46, By antp
Didn't you just ask me to change them from 1963 to 1962 ?
Or are these others that were already (wrongly) 1962?
Latest Edition: 29/07/2025 @ 20:46:14
Or are these others that were already (wrongly) 1962?
Latest Edition: 29/07/2025 @ 20:46:14
Mass change model info thread
Published 30/07/2025 @ 00:42:24, By MisterZ
Yes, sorry, I made a mistake in my previous comment. EJ utes and vans didn't go on sale until early 1963.
Latest Edition: 30/07/2025 @ 00:55:29
Latest Edition: 30/07/2025 @ 00:55:29
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